Labia, Beauty, & Love. The Vampire Wing Lift® and the O-Shot® for Women.

Welcome to the call. About five years ago, I was in Monaco to lecture and there was a very brilliant gynecologist talking about some of the new therapies and the question was asked, and I saw Dr. DeLucia help the poor guy with the question and before I knew it or before she knew it, the whole attention of the room was turned towards her because within a couple of sentences, everyone knew both her passion for taking care of women and her depth of understanding for how to take care of women. I’ve seen her lecturer in Venice.

I’ve seen her teach doctors all over the United States and she has a lot to say, both in her teaching of physicians and in her instruction and motivation of women. So I’m happy to introduce her about something that I think needs to be talked about, which is the ethics and the medicine and the ethics of exactly, can we take care of an entire woman’s body.

So let me introduce or bring Dr. DeLucia into the call, and I’m going to give you the screen, Dr. DeLucia, so that you can take over. And I know you have some before and after pictures and that sort of thing. So here we go. It’s coming to you.

Can everyone hear me? Thanks for being here. While he’s trying to pull up my slides that thankfully I sent to him. I would love to welcome you all. There you go. And we are going to be talking about labia, beauty and love. And there is nothing more that makes this world go round than love.

And we’ve learned that so well through these terrible pandemic and COVID times. Let’s move on. Charles, what’s the next slide? I wanted to talk about the important issues that surround female sexual health and the taboo of female genital plastic surgery or any cosmetic procedure to the female external genitalia. And the taboo is that this is almost like mutilation and not viewed as something that really works on the inner confidence and empowerment of a woman as she presents herself to the world.

This article in the Journal of Sexual Medicine was written by one of the absolute gurus in this field, Dr. Michael Goodman. And the concentration is on the fact that women have a need and a right to feel confident in their sexual health and that it has a ripple effect on their entire lives. And we can move on to the next slide. Did you lose me, Charles? I’m still here. OK, so the outcome of the data showed that ninety five percent of women undergoing external cosmetic procedures were happy with their results.

And eighty five to ninety five percent of women undergoing vaginal tightening reported enhancement of their sexual function. And the importance once again is that we have as women the right and the need to be active participants in intimate relationships. And when we feel good about ourselves over all, it impacts that intimacy and everything else in our lives. How we interact with our co-workers, how we interact with our children. Next slide.

Dr. DeLucia, I want to just add something here. You know, from back to the Middle Ages, there were priests who thought it was sinful to actually bathe the body because it was paying too much attention to this earthly body.

And we should be thinking of all of that. I lost you, Charles. So I’m going to keep speaking if you can’t hear Charles.

So women will spend many, many hours and spend their lives fixing their face. And if you could see my screen, I would be showing you a youthful face and the aging face and how it’s changing. Around our eyelids, we will have a change in the width of the eye. The tear trough or the area underneath the eye may become baggy. Hey Carolyn. Yes, dear, I’m back.

So, yes, I’m weathering hurricane Zeta.

So I thought I was gone, but the lights came back on, so I don’t know where you lost your presentation because we’re back with the slides.

Indeed if you could go back with your slides again and just progress to the lady’s face.

Sorry, everybody, this is crazy. Yes. So we have also the lower fat pad, which is around the mouth, and many women will complain they’re getting a fold around by round the nose and down the face, which is called the nasal labial fold. And there’s a prominent fold there women hate and a platysma ptosis, which is the marionette lines and jowling occurs. So we’re losing structure and support in the face. That will also happen on other parts of our body.

So, OK, so there you are.

So the ladies face.

Yes. Let me jump into something real quick, though. I just want to finish up.

Hopefully the wind won’t blow my lights out again. Back in the Middle Ages, it was considered sinful to take a bath. And so then we realize or at least some priest considered it so because we’re paying too much attention to the physical instead of the spiritual body. And you think, well, we’re far beyond that now. Well, sort of. We are. We are to the place, I can remember when Botox came along being a 60 year old doctor and having taken care of thousands of women for 30 years.

I remember when Botox first came on the scene, it was no, I don’t know. I just want to have my wrinkles.

And that’s OK. If you I mean, when I’m 60, I’m not 60 and that’s a new 40, no. I’m 60. I’m not 60 and I feel like 50. OK, no I’m 60 and I feel like a healthy 60 year old. And it’s OK to embrace the idea that you’re aging. But that doesn’t mean I can’t do things to try to age in the most healthy, functional way possible and be a healthy 60 year old.

And to me, that means doing things to my face, my skin. And if it’s OK to mop the floor and wax my car and paint my house, it’s OK to take care of my face and my skin and my genitalia. But what’s happening is obviously this is something sort of my pet peeve. But you touched on it before we move off of it. I think it’s safe for women to realize it’s OK to take care of any part of your body you want to take care of.

And if a woman chooses, OK, I don’t think that I want to fix my wrinkles. I want to live with them and let them be as wrinkly as they want to be. Wonderful. I think ninety year old I’ve seen many beautiful, gorgeous ninety year old women full of wrinkles. And I found now at 60, when I look at someone who’s twenty, I feel like I’m looking at a child that’s nothing sexually attracted to that to me anymore because I’m a sixty year old man.

So our ideas of what beauty is changes as we grow older, but just as a woman can choose to keep her wrinkles of her face, she can choose not to do anything with her labia or some combination thereof. But what I don’t want to skimp over is the idea that some women are punished for wanting to put Botox in their face. And even though now we know it helps treat depression and helps with migraines, six different research papers showing it helps treat depression that’s not responding to antidepressants in some women. And what you just showed, which is why I’m stopping even in the middle of a hurricane to emphasize this, is that Dr. Goodman was the first to show that just like Botox does not just treat wrinkles, it psychologically helps people in the same way when you make the flower of the labia healthier, and even if there’s no pain, even if there’s not a dysfunction, there’s more enhanced function, sexual function as shown by true scientific measurements by Dr. Michael Goodman and others following. So all that to say none of what we’re saying tonight matters unless women give them permission to take care of any part of their body they want to take care of and overlook the naysayers. OK, now I’m ready to move on. I had to get off that soapbox thing.

All right. Well, you could go back one slide because I do want to bring up something in the in this particular article which continues on that same vein, the last sentence in this particular article that is about having sex after a baby. That’s what sexuality in the purpurea means. And in this article, they say that women postpartum after having a baby, have a multitude of reasons for being fearful and not to jump right back in to being intimate and included with having not sufficient lubrication, maybe from having breast feeding or just the fatigue of having the baby, there’s fears of waking the baby up, but also a decreased sense of attractiveness.

And it’s very prevalent in women after childbirth not to feel attractive. And these are issues that absolutely are affecting every woman every day. And in order to address this, this article says that type of attention should begin before a woman even leaves the hospital.

So can I just want to I want to give you a good amen right here, too, as well. You know, down south we say amen.

So the other side of this is there are those who say we as physicians who do anything that’s cosmetic to something between the legs or somehow brainwashing women to feel insecure about something that they felt good about until we brainwashed her about it so that we can then take care, take advantage of them and steal their money. And as you know, that’s not an exaggeration to the way some people feel. But what you’re going to show with pictures and what you see as a practicing gynecologist is that there’s a lot of trauma that goes on down there.

There’s trauma from childbirth, there’s trauma from abuse. You want to empower a woman, see a woman who is physically abused by her ex-husband in the anus, in the genitalia, and then take this procedure and make things work again so they don’t hurt. And so that it looks like it did when she was younger, before she met the, I’m not going to use a bad word. And and that’s empowerment and it’s not about us making somebody feel bad so that we can steal their money.

It’s about someone who feels broken and is helping them feel better. OK, keep going. You can do the next one.

I want to stress that we need to gloss over how important it is for women to get themselves taken care of if they feel broken. One hundred percent. All right, the next slide, and this is the one I was referring to. So the first half obvious is the youthful face and the aging face. And a multitude of changes occur. Women do not hesitate much anymore to go and get treatment for all the aging facets of the face, the nasal labial fold, the jowls that begin to fall.

And we can do this also with platelet rich plasma, which I will explain in a moment. The next slide. So these kind of changes, lifetime changes occur in the vulva and the vagina and the vulva is the outside female genitalia and the vagina is the conduit, the passage way from the opening into the womb of the woman. So this whole article focuses on specifically the changes. Next slide. And we see here that there are changes that occur from the new born to middle age to postmenopausal and in the vulva as well as the vagina.

There are hormonal changes that occur through life. There are traumatic changes that occur through life, through childbirth, through wearing pants, through gravity, through all the aspects and occurrences of life with child birth, there’s a weakness of the walls of the vagina. The way I describe it is that before a woman has a baby, the vagina is like a tube. After childbirth, it’s like a square. The walls fall in from the top, the bottom and the sides. With that laxity, that will cause less of friction, less of a sensation with intimacy on the outside the tissues in the labia menora will begin to grow as women age.

They get darkened on the edges. The labia majora, which are the larger lips on the outside, will begin to lose fat. As we age, that fat is transported it seems. It disappears from the labia moves to the mons pubis, which is the fat pad above the pubic synthesis, the pubic bone up front. And women loath that change as well. So when the labia majora deflate, it’s much like the cheeks on our face. It’s like a flat tire or one woman referred to it as a used baseball glove.

And you know how our kids playing softball or playing baseball, how that glove gets beaten and worn, that’s what happens to the external female genitalia. And having intercourse is another beating women take on a regular basis. Next slide. So this is an actual schematic of changes that occur to the outside skin, one of the emphasises on this chart is that women who are older and what happens we become incontinent, a lot of women begin to not hold their urine well.

If you go out with a group of girlfriends, everyone starts laughing. Everyone crosses their legs and says, oh, my gosh, I’m going to wet my pants. We’re all laughing and it’s fun and everything, but it shouldn’t happen and it doesn’t have to happen. And yet women normalize it and let it continue. And with that leakage of urine day in, day out, wearing pads, all of that changes the tissue of the skin in our genital area. Next slide.

And I think it’s worth mentioning here, the number one reason for putting people in the nursing home is urinary incontinence. And it’s not just old people and it’s not just people who’ve had children. One in 20 women in their 20s have their lifestyle or their hygiene interrupted by incontinence. So this it’s not just about when we’re talking about making this tissue healthier. It’s not just about so it looks pretty or younger. Correct.

So here’s an example of using platelet rich plasma in the face and rejuvenating the skin. Now, the next slide is just the way women feel where an S.O.S. save the sinking ship. So next slide is what we can do with platelet rich plasma in the labia. And you can tell from the picture on the left that the skin is thickened and rough. And in the after picture, it’s plump and it’s light in color and it looks much more useful.

Platelet rich plasma for those in the crowd that are not familiar with it is the portion of our blood that helps us heal ourselves. And in the past, we’re going back 15, 20 years now, doctors were looking for a way to help athletes heal and g et them out on that field faster. And Charles has always encouraged me to use this example. And it makes perfect sense when we are young and we scrape our knee yellow fluid comes out, a scab is formed, the scab falls off and we have nice new pink skin.

That yellow goo is platelet rich plasma. But what doctors were able to figure out is that we can isolate and concentrate and use that portion of our blood where we need it in order to help healing. So by simply drawing your blood like you’re having a blood test, the blood is then processed in FDA approved tubes and centrifuges specifically made to isolate and concentrate that portion of your blood and what is then done, it’s returned to you. So by simply injecting it back into the labia here, it was able to completely rejuvenate that skin.

It was also what I used in the woman’s cheeks to rejuvenate her face. And it can be used in breast tissue. It can be used in a penis. So here is another example of the labia being rejuvenated with platelet rich plasma. And one of the most important factors about platelet rich plasma is that it stimulates our own stem cells to create the new tissue.

And it has that that chemical sense to know what tissue is needed in that area. Our bodies are very, very smart and they can signal the formation of tissue that we need in that particular site. So in the labia, it will grow fat and other soft connective tissue in the breast, it will grow fat in the face. It will grow collagen and elastin and minimize poor size. Just miraculous. And Dr. Runels has coined the names of these procedures and and really perfected how to use the PRP to help women, and these are just cases that I do every day.

And happily, women are saying that their lives are improving and their intimate confidence is improving.

So I think it’s worth saying here, Dr. Delucia, as you know, there are also many papers showing that platelet rich plasma helps rejuvenate nerve tissue. And so you might want to talk about some of your patients and the change in sensation. So it’s not just about how it looks in the bedroom. It’s it’s about other things. Can you address that?

One hundred percent, also function. So none of this is simply about the way it looks when women are losing that padding, when the fat diminishes in these labia and women are trying to have intimacy and or sit on a chair for a long period of time or ride a bicycle, it’s downright uncomfortable. And by replenishing this tissue on the outside, it’s basically filling up the tire or replenishing a bumper. And intimacy is dramatically improved. I can speak from firsthand experience and I was shocked.

I didn’t even I was really more concerned about my bicycle than I was about intimacy in this particular area. And it made having intercourse much, much, much more pleasant having this tissue re-established. The PRP used for intimate use in the clitoris and the anterior vaginal wall known as the O-Shot, brings back sensation better than when you’re 20 years old. So reestablishing those new nerves and increased blood flow to the particular areas completely can change the fact of sensation.

Not only that, there are women who have never had an orgasm and about 50 percent of them are able to have an orgasm after the use of platelet rich plasma by enriching the nerve and the blood flow to the area.

Yeah, I think it’s also worth noting that the there are so many things that can cause loss of sensation there, for example, everybody is fond of their spin class. But if you go look at the research is well documented that a lot of time on the bicycle can damage the nerves. Even a modern saying don’t do your spin class, but not everybody has a seat that fits properly. The other thing that can happen, of course, is when you have surgical procedures like a midriffs will swing.

I’m not saying that procedure shouldn’t be done. It needs to be done. But in one study published in Nature, 10 percent of the women who had seen it either failed or they had severe morbidity. It can interfere with the nerves of sexual response. So and then, of course, there’s the trauma of childbirth and so there and just general aging and things that happen with the nerves, with diabetes and vitamin deficiency. So there’s so many things that can go on down there to think the what’s finally happening, coming out of the Dark Ages is we no longer are thinking of the vagina as a simple tube that leads to the cervix in which a penis can deposit sperm.

There’s this really very elegant array of nerves. There’s pressure on the urethra. The clitoris drapes down on either side of the vagina. And so there’s a lot of things going on in there and around the area and including in the labia. So the idea that we should just do only counseling and hand everybody a vibrator and some KY Jelly and not think about how to actually improve the health of that tissue is, I think, living in the dark ages. Can you talk a little more about that idea, Carolyn, about what you’ve seen maybe with a patient or two?

Certainly, I think that when the changes that occur to the vaginal wall, two specific changes occur with hormonal changes and menopause. One of those changes is the lack of blood flow to the area. Without blood flow, which without estrogen, the estrogen supports our blood flow. Without blood flow, we lose collagen and elastin and secretions. And that is what lubricates the vaginal walls with intimacy. So there’s an extensive amount of dryness and a loss of the ability to stretch and the inner walls of the vagina become like a skating rink.

And so instead of having folds and the ability to stretch, that will make intimacy feel like a round hairbrush instead of human anatomy. And it’s very, very unpleasant. With the use of platelet rich plasma into the tissues, the ability to rebuild the collagen and new blood vessels to the area can return function of the vaginal walls and make an overstretched rubber band back into a new rubber band that will help the ability to stretch and accommodate what’s penetrating and that will make intimacy much more comfortable. So I have had patients who could not have a pleasant relationship, no orgasm and excruciating pain able to return to complete function.

On YouTube, we have testimonials of women who never had an orgasm, faked it for over 20 years, and following the o-shot was able to finally have intimacy with and she she wouldn’t tell her husband because she had never shared with him that she couldn’t have an orgasm, but he said: “something very different” was his comment.

Yes, she was no, she was no longer harry Met Sally at the at the dinner table. So we’re talking about this hesitancy to talk. And I could have psychological problems. You know, if you have a broken arm, if you got breast cancer, we got covid, you tell your friends. If you have schizophrenia, maybe you don’t and maybe you don’t put that on Facebook. Maybe you don’t put tweet out that you just got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. And because there’s a psychological stigma that goes with it.

Right is the same thing, it’s why you’ll never see a celebrity endorsing the O-Shot. How’s that going to go over if you have some major sex symbol? Well, I got the shot and cured my incontinence and my dyspareunia. So and but then we’re all sex symbols to the people that we love. And so for that reason, to that woman, her audience of one, her husband, to want to spoil the spoil the magic. So you have this this great hesitancy to speak about the pain and women go for years and years and years without knowing the pleasure of the pain and so on. So I have a love for things like this. We have a courageous gynecologist and courageous people on the call. I mean, just being on this call, you’re brave, right? You would have less criticism if you were watching pornography or, I don’t know, doing drugs, then talking about labia health in some circles. Let me show you another picture.

I want to get on and in short order, come back to the slide.

But check this out, because I think it makes your point, Carol, and I’m going to come back, so right there. OK, the blank out, the middle, so whatever we’re talking about vaginas, but I want to tell you about the rest of this woman, right? This isn’t a labia. This is a woman who has labia and this woman’s body, she was around 70, her body. She took care of it.

She very sexually active, very bright, still working, children, vibrant woman. If you saw at the gym, you’d say, wow, that’s the body I want when I’m 70 years old. And her labia didn’t match the rest of her, not in function, not in appearance. So should we criticize her for wanting to make this match the rest of her body? I think not. And there’s more comfort, more sexuality, more response afterwards.

Anyway, let me come back. I don’t want to keep interrupting you too much.

No, please do definitely emphasize that there’s a need for these discussions.

And it’s not just about taking a pretty picture. Most of us are not putting posters on the wall of our genitalia or shooting it out on Instagram or Twitter or whatever. But we have our audience that our love or our intimate spouse and we have our functionality. And so thankfully, brave people like Dr. DeLucia, who started before way in the early stages of our of this process of talking about something other than KY Jelly and vibrators, you know, we finally have two drugs, but we’re still we still have only two drugs that are FDA approved to help women with their sexuality and then have over 20.

Right. So anyway, we need to keep moving. OK, let’s get back to those drugs, the drugs, I’m a gynecologist and I have never prescribed either one of them. Let me explain why of the first one, Addy or the little pink pill is supposed to be similar to the little purple pill. My issue there is that the pill is for desire and the majority of women who are lacking desire also lack sensation and are in pain.

So I don’t want to make a woman desire intimacy when she can’t act on it. It doesn’t make sense to me. That’s number one. Number two, that particular pill, the side effect is severe drop in blood pressure to the point of fainting and if added with alcohol, could be death. And I will say that in the United States, the majority of women, when being social, will have a glass of wine. And if you have taken this pill together with alcohol, your risk is death. I’m not comfortable with that risk. But in the picture that we’re looking at right now, you see the change in the color. The wing left, the vampire wing left is a procedure that has been trademarked by Dr. Runels. And what we do here is take the platelet rich plasma and inject it directly into the labia majora, the large lips outside. And because of the nature of platelet rich plasma, it will change the coloration.

So it improves the color of the external tissues and increases the bulk and refills those labia majora. So we have been talking about two different procedures that we are using down here, and it might get somewhat confusing. So the o-shot is for sensation and for treatment of the internal vaginal tissues, as well as clitoral sensation, increased blood flow and nerve to directly to the clitoris and to the walls of the vagina, the G spot area. And it also helps with urinary incontinence.

One of the pilot studies that Dr. Runels did showed that 90 percent improvement in urinary incontinence occurred in a group of fifty four women, I believe, as the pilot study, and 90 percent of them no longer needed pads. And that’s pretty impressive with just your own body healing itself. So the next slide here, I just wanted to say, like you think to yourself, how can platelet rich plasma grow fat? And this is clear evidence of increased fat built in the breast in this woman.

With only platelet rich plasma injected and this was at eight months later, is just remarkable what the platelet rich plasma can do. So as it has filled here in the breast, it fills the vulva. And it lasts at least a year, if not longer. I didn’t tell me, Charles, if you have seen this over the years that we’ve been doing these procedures for over seven years now. And I think that when we are using the platelet rich plasma in areas where adipose is formed, that it lasts a lot longer than a year.

Yes, it does.

I’ve I’ve actually never had to repeat a breast lift. If people lose weight, of course, that changes the game, but they keep their weight normal. They just start to age the age, but they start from a new set point and they there’s nothing to wear off because the fat tissue grows. As you know, there was a study about school funding where you injected the back of the arm published in the annals of facial plastic surgery, injected the back of the arm and biopsy, and he demonstrated in biopsy studies back in 2009.

So that’s a, you know, 11, 12 years of the adipocytes multiply and enlarged in the back of the arm. The more large when you put PRP in. So, Carolina, you know this obviously we haven’t made anybody well, they’re just looking at pictures, hearing us talk, but hopefully we’ve sparked some interest. Hopefully your, I love having you talk because you’re a brave, smart woman. Your specialty is your specialty. You’ve seen lives change.

You’ve taught other doctors, and then you have your doctors. You talk about their lives being changed. We’ve published research. We have more research on the way. What what advice would you give women now moving forward? You know, there’s some things that I would say, like, first of all, just give yourself permission to take care of yourself in any way you feel broken and build on that. What would you tell someone listening to you now?

What do they do next?

I would definitely say that we are out there. There are doctors that are willing to listen and want to hear and want to help. And there are these are not necessarily. Totally broken, we want it’s really more about empowerment. This slide I just put up here is an incredible piece of artwork in London. It’s called the Great Wall of China. And the artist spent eight years collecting plaster molds of women’s vulvas, and that’s the external female genitalia. And as you see, we are all normal, we are all beautiful and it’s all unique in our own way.

And we are as beautiful as snowflakes and is unique. But that being said, when we go through aging, if we feel that we want to be more confident and to give us that edge that we need to. The more present and more active in our intimacy seek out the appropriate help there are, you could come to a doctor like me.

There are more we can give you those names. You can go to the website and look for providers on the website. And there there are a few. There’s how many of us in the United States now? About a thousand.

Well, we’re twenty three hundred worldwide. Let me expand upon an empowerment thing. You know, I have a car that has a little scuff marks next to the handle on the driver’s side. The thing gets me to the grocery store. It gets me to work. It works great.

That little scuff. It could not bother me at all. I could go about my business or it could bug me and that would depend on someone’s personality. If a scuff if most people or many people had a scrape on the side of their driver’s side door, they would want that touched up because it would bug them every time they opened the door to get in the car. Others wouldn’t care in the same way. When you look at that vagina I showed you a moment ago in the 70 year old woman, there are many 70 year old woman that empowered through their empowerment.

I’m saying the empowerment is what does that woman want their empowerment might be? I’m perfectly fine with this. I’m living. I’m a widow. I masturbate when I want to. It feels great. And there’s nothing everything’s working the way I want to or I don’t masturbate. I’m I’m living in a different kind of sexuality and not even touch the genital anymore, whatever that is. Her empowerment to choose not to do anything in the same way another woman might say, oh, well, this doesn’t match the rest of me.

I have a husband who’s twenty years younger than me or twenty years older than me, whatever. This doesn’t match the other things I’ve done with my body. The rest of my body and my empowerment is to fix the buff on the side of the passenger door, the driver’s side door and sort of not. And so I. I think it’s important that we are empowering women. You are empowering women. I really want this to be even though I thought of these procedures, they’re nothing without powerful, brilliant women like yourself out teaching other women and other doctors.

The other thing I want to point out to the people on the call, if you’re we share this freely. We have around 35000 gynecologists in the US alone. We only have 2300 people in our group in the in the world wide. So another thing you can do is just ask your doctor. I’ll bet you close to half the physicians I’ve trained came to see me because their patient said, I want you to learn how to do this. And so they come learn and they go home and do it so that you could ask your doctor to it is up on the website or hit up Dr. DeLucia. She’s one of our premier teachers or hit us up on we have a directory of instructors and professors worldwide so you can have the doctor you trust, learn how to do these procedures and offer them or see if they might be the right thing for you. OK, other thing I want to bring up is Carolyn has a book that is extremely touching. It’s a pocket book you don’t have to walk around with. And it’s going to it’s not going to take you a week to read it.

But it’s it’s charming but informative and inspiring. You can pick it up on Amazon. Let me just show you where he lives and I’ll put that thing in the chat box where you can track it down. Until I was going to do this, she didn’t come on and sell her book. But here’s the thing. We haven’t helped them yet, Carolyn. We’ve inspired. But now when they hang up, what do they do next? So if they’re I don’t want to leave them hanging.

So the things you could do, you could ask your doctor to learn how to do this. You could ask your and if your doctor doesn’t want to learn how. Well, maybe you could find one of the people in our directory. Right. Let me show you.

So here’s the thing on Amazon. If you have a Kindle, you’ll have to pay for it. She she doesn’t have to do that, but she gives it away for free. If you have a Kindle, you can see there’s no price to it. She doesn’t have to make it for free. She’s not out to make a fortune. Good. She’s out to teach people about this procedure. So there you go. Put the link in the box, pick up her book, pass it around, spread the word about it, use it to inspire yourself to to fix empower yourself to make better whatever you want to make better closes out.

Carolyn, what other advice do you have for the ladies and the the lovers of women on the call and then we’ll shut this down?

Absolutely. I just want to say that I think that every woman should own her sexuality, be proud of being a woman and. It be allowed and allow yourself to enjoy intimate relationships and whether it be with yourself or with a partner, permit yourself to be an active participant. And if you’re uncomfortable with something happening, seek out the help we’re out there. Yes.

There’s a there’s one other thing that it does sometimes take a team, even though sometimes people have physical problems that need a physician instead of counseling, even when you make the sex better physically, sometimes they need counseling because now the the lover of the woman can’t keep up. So your team may be a psychologist, a marriage counselor and the gun and or your family practitioner. It might be a urologist. It may be a pelvic floor physical therapist. It may be a nutritionist or an endocrinologist, but definitely put together your team of superstars and definitely pick up Dr. DeLucia book to help you think about all the options that are out there.

Yeah, and for the providers, it’s a it’s a I wrote it so that not only can the patients understand what is possible and the treatments that are that are available, but also a way to communicate with our patients, we often don’t have enough time during the day to share all the information we’d love to give to our patients. So this is a quick read for them to take home. And within an hour they’ll have a little bit of a teaser of what we actually can do for them and they can come and ask for more help.

Very good. Thank you, Dr. DeLucia, for making time for this. I know you have your offices in New York City and New Jersey and you’re teaching and you’ve got your family. So thank you for making time. And I’m getting lots of feedback on the chat box. People are loving it. So you have a wonderful night and stay little, too.

Thank you to my windows. Survived this hurricane Zeta.

Good night. Good night.